Interesting article. Further pointing out all the headaches Intel is going through right now.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-compone ... nter-space
For the first time ever, AMD outsells Intel in the datacenter space
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Intel has always seemed to me that it put as much effort into its marketing and hype as it did into its cpus. I was shocked to see the prices on the server cpus. They must have a reject rate that is through the roof. Intel does have a lot of fabrication facilities though so I suspect they will always find something to make.
I started on a 6502 onto the 680x0 then to PPC. I bought my first intel based machine somewhere around the turn of the century and it was around 2010 when I switched to intel systems as my main computers. I have had mostly good luck with ARM, but they never quite made it to being the main machines. My laptop and desktop AIO are both intel. I think one is a 9th gen and the other a 10th gen and both are easily adequate for my increasingly modest needs.
I started on a 6502 onto the 680x0 then to PPC. I bought my first intel based machine somewhere around the turn of the century and it was around 2010 when I switched to intel systems as my main computers. I have had mostly good luck with ARM, but they never quite made it to being the main machines. My laptop and desktop AIO are both intel. I think one is a 9th gen and the other a 10th gen and both are easily adequate for my increasingly modest needs.
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I did start on Intel, but switched to AMD reasonably quickly because I was poor and they were cheaper (Super socket 7 K6-II and K6-III). I also used a lot of early Celerons (still remember the Celeron 300A that some 90% would overclock to 450MHz without any issues, had that as my primary rig for quite some time) for the same reason.
Nowadays, I CURRENTLY use mostly AMD because they're simply better. But as Intel has brought themselves back into relevance, I do now own an Intel laptop again (Xiaomi Redmi Book Pro 14, 155H, 32GB, 2x1TB, 14" 2880x1800 400-nit LCD). And I'd like to try the forthecoming Arrow Lake laptops (Lunar Lake, not having any sku's with 64GB ram, I'm not really much interested in).
Nowadays, I CURRENTLY use mostly AMD because they're simply better. But as Intel has brought themselves back into relevance, I do now own an Intel laptop again (Xiaomi Redmi Book Pro 14, 155H, 32GB, 2x1TB, 14" 2880x1800 400-nit LCD). And I'd like to try the forthecoming Arrow Lake laptops (Lunar Lake, not having any sku's with 64GB ram, I'm not really much interested in).
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I tend not to buy latest models of laptops/desktops and so usually have the benefit of being able to check online for user donated benchmarks and the like, I find them to be more reliable than the manufacturers ones as they are run in real world scenarios rather than laboratory tests, (tlmiller signature is a great example) and never really look for specifically AMD/Intel machines. I buy what I consider best bang for my buck at the time I need it, and recent years have seen me purchase a mainly AMD but like most people (IME) I would not prefer one over the other without a good reason and cost has swung in favour of AMD so far, and by a good margin.
When I look back at cpu's I have had, I think my earliest AMD purchases were Athlon and Sempron with one Turion in the mix, but the problem I had back then was heat, I noticed they all seemed to run pretty hot! And as these were laptops it was very noticeable. I also had one FX processor (desktop) which too was running hot but that one was easier to fix by adding a better heat-sink/fan in order to solve it. I can't recall the exact cpu info on that one but I think it was 86xx or something like that which maybe points towards Phenom X3 (searching wikipedia led me to that info). It was not a machine I used much and was later passed on to somebody else.
Another thing to note would be the RAM used for all these laptops were at max 4GB and most often less (they could all run with less than 1GB IIRC) which I could barely imagine trying to get away with now, even sbc's like raspberry Pi have more RAM. I tend to filter anything below 16GB when searching for new machines as I think it would be very limiting to have less in todays world.
Note: I never took a huge interest in the particulars of the cpu back in those days and so my processor descriptions are going to be vague at best, sorry for that.
When I look back at cpu's I have had, I think my earliest AMD purchases were Athlon and Sempron with one Turion in the mix, but the problem I had back then was heat, I noticed they all seemed to run pretty hot! And as these were laptops it was very noticeable. I also had one FX processor (desktop) which too was running hot but that one was easier to fix by adding a better heat-sink/fan in order to solve it. I can't recall the exact cpu info on that one but I think it was 86xx or something like that which maybe points towards Phenom X3 (searching wikipedia led me to that info). It was not a machine I used much and was later passed on to somebody else.
Another thing to note would be the RAM used for all these laptops were at max 4GB and most often less (they could all run with less than 1GB IIRC) which I could barely imagine trying to get away with now, even sbc's like raspberry Pi have more RAM. I tend to filter anything below 16GB when searching for new machines as I think it would be very limiting to have less in todays world.
Note: I never took a huge interest in the particulars of the cpu back in those days and so my processor descriptions are going to be vague at best, sorry for that.
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I actually have that installed on my desktop, that I boot to...every few months.
Sadly, they don't have it avaiable for REAL OS's, although ryzenadj can do many of the same things, but is CLI only, and ryzen-controller had started to be developed to provide a gui for it (has been abandoned for years now).
I'm not willing to risk overclocking in CLI myself...
Sadly, they don't have it avaiable for REAL OS's, although ryzenadj can do many of the same things, but is CLI only, and ryzen-controller had started to be developed to provide a gui for it (has been abandoned for years now).
I'm not willing to risk overclocking in CLI myself...
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I did install this when I first got my ryzen laptop and it just sat there as I prefer not to overclock anything, at the time I was considering under-volting it to give better battery life and reduce thermal throttling although I never did actually change anything, my concern at the time was voiding my warranty and now it's been running without issue so I don't want to tempt fate by changing anything.
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During the era of the G3 and G4 desktop Macs (98-04) most machines had two sets of jumper blocks on the mother board. One block set the buss speed and the other set the processor multiplier. That was the only time I did any over clocking. The processors were also socketed and the fiddling I did with the blocks was aimed towards getting a faster processor to run at its faster speed.
It always seemed there was some component on the logic board that just did not like a higher buss speed, so trying to set that faster very often meant failure. However both the G3 and G4 processors would easily run at 125-150% of their rated speed. The oldest desktop in my collection is a 98 "Molar Mac" built in 1998 for the education market. It came with a 233MHz G3. G3's and G4's used the same socket so I upgraded it to a 450Mhz G4. As I recall the logic board was rated at 83Mhz which I did get to run stable at 100Mhz. With the buss speed bumped up to 100Mhz I was able to clock the G4 at 550MHz. It runs stable at that speed.
The machine now days is more very odd curiosity than a useful machine. Google "Molar Mac" if you are curious as to just how ugly a desktop can be.
It always seemed there was some component on the logic board that just did not like a higher buss speed, so trying to set that faster very often meant failure. However both the G3 and G4 processors would easily run at 125-150% of their rated speed. The oldest desktop in my collection is a 98 "Molar Mac" built in 1998 for the education market. It came with a 233MHz G3. G3's and G4's used the same socket so I upgraded it to a 450Mhz G4. As I recall the logic board was rated at 83Mhz which I did get to run stable at 100Mhz. With the buss speed bumped up to 100Mhz I was able to clock the G4 at 550MHz. It runs stable at that speed.
The machine now days is more very odd curiosity than a useful machine. Google "Molar Mac" if you are curious as to just how ugly a desktop can be.